THE STORY OF… Giant Sand’s Chore Of Enchantment

Nov 29, 2011



A deluxe, expanded reissue of the 2000 Sand classic prompts us to flip through our back pages.

 

BY FRED MILLS

 

With British label Fire Records' ongoing overhaul of the Giant Sand back catalog - several "25th Anniversary Edition" expanded remasters were released this year and more are due in 2012 (details here) - now seems like the perfect time to celebrate anew Chore Of Enchantment. Originally released in 2000 by Chicago's Thrill Jockey, this month's Fire reissue (a sprawling two-CD version, no less) finds it having endured the test of time to become one of the core artifacts in the Sand oeuvre.

 

Point of fact, it's long been one of yours truly's favorite recordings, and at the time of Chore's initial arrival, I was living in Tucson where the members of Giant Sand lived so it was easy for me to drop in on band founder Howe Gelb to talk about the record and the tangled (to put it lightly) circumstances surrounding its creation. A truncated version of the story that follows originally appeared in issue #45 of Magnet magazine but the magazine published such a drastic edit that many of Gelb's most revealing disclosures - and indeed, details key to understanding the inner workings of the band - were left on the cutting room floor. As a result, several years later I opted to place the complete, unexpurgated version on Britain's desert rock-friendly Sa-Wa-Ro website; what you'll read below is essentially the latter take, with some slight tweaking. Be aware that since 2000 many changes have taken place in the Giant Sand universe - for one thing, Joey Burns and John Convertino are no longer in the band and now concentrate full time on Calexico - but as a widescreen snapshot of how things stood at that particular point in time, I think it still can prove valuable to any true fan of the group.

 

Incidentally, today on the BLURT website we've also got a detailed Howe Gelb-narrated autodiscography from the same year that, likewise, should be of interest to Giant Sand aficionados. I hope you enjoy both pieces. - FM

 

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By most standards, Giant Sand's Howe Gelb should have thrown in the towel in 1999. That was the year when, coming on the heels of the death of Gelb's best friend, an unexpected clash within his band and a lingering bout with writer's block and artistic self-doubt, his record label delivered the mortal blow in the way of dropping him from the roster -- right after he'd turned in what is arguably the most enticing and fully-realized record of his 20-year career. Same old "independent artist slams into the major label brick wall" story? Not quite. In the Giant Sand world, things tend to turn upon their own idiosyncrasies, and those whims rarely align themselves with the goings-on of the mainstream music biz.

 

Or, as Gelb himself characterizes his band, "It's been a training ground for an attitude and healthy perspectives. It dealt with the not clinging to most of the things that other bands cling to. It didn't have a great ambition or a great description of what it was -- it tried to sidestep all of that."

The Story Thus Far

Even to the outsider, Giant Sand has tended to appear more familial, almost communal in nature, than musical projects marked by the usual get-in-the-van boys'-club rock band mentality. Things did start off traditionally enough for Gelb: Arriving in Arizona from Pennsylvania in the late '70s, he soon formed a new waveish garage band, Giant Sandworms, with three talented Tucson musicians, including RainerPtacek, who would come to figure heavily in his personal and professional life. But that group turned into, by Gelb's own admission, a "four-headed beast" that quickly saw Ptacek depart following the release of an EP in 1980 and a decision by the others to temporarily relocate to New York. The move turned out disastrously (the twin specters of heroin and financial destitution reared up within the band), and upon returning to Tucson, the Sandworms, through happenstance, initiated a revolving-door membership policy which would extend beyond the group's four-year lifespan and pick up steam in Gelb's subsequent musical incarnation.

 

The Giant Sand story proper picks up in '84 when Gelb, during another temporary exodus from the Old Pueblo, landed in L.A. in order to live in closer proximity to both his favorite recording studio and Enigma Records, to which he'd recently signed and was set to release the inaugural  Giant Sand album, Valley Of Rain. Recalling his first night in L.A., Gelb says, "In the van I had the tapes of both that record and the The Band Of Blacky Ranchette album [a country-rock side project he'd initiated a few months earlier with his old chum from the Sandworms, Ptacek], and I had a feeling it was gonna get ripped off so I'd taken everything out of the van but I forgot the tapes! We had the pre-mix and the rough-mix of each session, and we got back and sure enough, they'd ripped off the van -- they'd somehow stolen one reel of each, leaving me with the rough mix of Blacky and the pre-mix masters of Valley Of Rain. Those tapes became the two albums. The next day we went down to this ghetto area and suddenly Scott Garber [Giant Sand bassist] goes, 'Did you see the shit that guy was wearing?' And it was a Giant Sandworms shirt that he must have stolen!"

Undeterred, Gelb soldiered on, and with the 1985 release of Valley Of Rain the Giant Sand star quickly rose among aficionados -- including some extremely rabid fans overseas, such as England's venerable Bucketful Of Brains magazine (whose review of the record, ironically enough, was how yours truly first heard of Giant Sand -- of the then-burgeoning American guitar-band scene. Subsequent albums throughout the '80s and on into the early '90s solidified the group's reputation even as Gelb was diversifying his position. Giant Sand could veer from an introspective folk tune to a full-on Neil Youngian skronk-fest to a sweet, acoustic guitar/pedal-steel country number in less time it took to flip an album over on the turntable, and this unpredictability comprised a major portion of the outfit's appeal. Gelb clearly relished the options afforded by letting go of preconceived notions of what constituted a core "sound." At one point in late '86 he even took his own Rolling Thunder-styled revue to Europe, a morphing six-piece that might start out a set as Giant Sand, become Blacky Ranchette midway through, and by show's end turn into The Band of Giant Blacky or some such imprecise appellation. A few years later, readying a new Giant Sand release, he consented to issue the record as a Howe Gelb solo album because his label complained there was too much recent Sand product to market and promote already! (Gelb: "We'd been putting them out every six to eight months and they were saying, 'Please, can you wait longer between releases!'")

At any rate, this is old history that's been recounted in fine detail many times in the past. In any event, we'll let Gelb himself touch on selected aspects of his tenure himself [see the sidebar]. What's important is where Giant Sand
stands today.

With Gelb, it seems, a working combo or stylistic vision is only as fixed as the chemistry churning within. And over the years -- sixteen and counting for Giant Sand, which boasts more alumni than Menudo and is now on its 15th album (24th if you include compilations and side projects) -- the Giant Sand chemistry has yielded some volatile products indeed, the results of a catching-lightning-in-a-bottle creative aesthetic and a deeply-felt appreciation for how different combinations of personalities can offer new, challenging, artistic possibilities. Gelb, as the founding member, songwriter and proud patriarch of Giant Sand, provides the kind of easygoing, guiding hand -- he calls it a "lack of ambition" -- which paradoxically allows a flexible structure to grow and flourish while still maintaining a necessary philosophical consistency. Members of the Giant Sand extended family have been known to wander off and busy themselves elsewhere on other projects; but they've always been welcomed with open arms upon return. The very nature of the beast means that it can twist around and bite itself on the leg, and, in fact, that's precisely what happened without warning in the last few years.


Still, to cite Gelb quoting that paragon of paradox, Buddha, "If you know you
are walking on a trap, it will be pure joy."

Tucson, Arizona, 2000

It's a sunny, beautiful March day in Tucson, and today, at Gelb's bright blue adobe digs located squarely in the middle of Tucson's colorful Barrio Viejo district, "family" is the operative word. I'm here to probe Gelb about Chore Of Enchantment, the latest Giant Sand album which has just been released by Chicago's Thrill Jockey label. As I wander in the front door I'm warmly greeted by his wife Sofie, who introduces me to her mother, currently very far away from home (Denmark) and visiting her daughter and son-in-law for a spell. Accepting an offer of fresh coffee, I sit down at the kitchen table, which is occupied by a pair of visitors with whom I'm already acquainted, Patti and Lili Keating, widow and daughter of Rainer Ptacek. Sofie ducks into the bedroom to check on the baby, emerging in a few minutes holding son Luka, who'll turn one in a matter of weeks.  Brushing sleep from his eyes, Luka reaches for his juice bottle and, after a few cursory sucks, glances around the room and smiles winningly for mom, grandmother and journalist.

By now family pooch Rosa has also sauntered into the kitchen. Rosa sniffs suspiciously at the intruder, examines the other occupants of the room for any potential food handouts, then darts out the door into the back yard where Papa Howe is finishing up trenching out irrigation basins for the trees and shrubs. Soon enough filmmaker Bill Carter (of Miss Sarajevo fame and currently assembling a Giant Sand documentary) drops by, as does Giant Sand/Calexico drummer John Convertino and young daughter Mia, who wants to watch "Teletubbies" with Luka and Lili. Numerous times over the course of the afternoon the Gelb phone will ring: Thrill Jockey label maven Bettina Richards, reminding Gelb of an interview slated for the following afternoon; guitarist Nick Luca, recently added to the Giant Sand touring lineup, inquiring about details regarding an upcoming appearance at South By Southwest.

So it's no wonder that what started out to be a simple discussion about the new album winds up turning into a rambling six-hour session with numerous interruptions. None are unwelcome, however, and an impromptu father-son jam session (on upright piano and cardboard box drums -- you may figure who played what) is particularly touching. Gelb clearly dotes on the kid. He's neither upset nor fazed when Luka, crawling furiously across the floor of Gelb's music room, almost knocks over a hi-tech-looking guitar effects box.  Gelb scoops up his son, smiles, and says, 'That's okay. If he breaks it, he'll just redefine it."

Major Prospects

"My ultimate goal was to have, for the first time, a universal release with a company with good distribution," explains Gelb of his decision to sign with upstart major label V2 some 3 1/2 years earlier. "We took months, considering certain things like 'is the deal applicable and how so is it?'; I'd met people in four or five offices in different countries and liked 99.9% of those people. It was a brand new company, they had high ideals, really free-minded, and they were good about paying us health insurance. Everything about it was healthy."

Or so it seemed. In a sense, you'd think that Gelb would have been gun shy about hooking up with V2; his last experience with a major label ended in disaster when Imago, which issued 1994's Glum, collapsed prior to the release of the album in Europe, traditionally a Giant Sand stronghold and a solid source of touring income for the band. During the next couple of years a handful of Giant Sand one-offs, mostly comprising live material, appeared on indie labels. But Gelb, who freely admits to being fascinated with the way the music business works, still hungered for that increased exposure for his band that a worldwide release would bring. Says Gelb with a laugh, "Even if we eventually got dropped, even the smallest percentage that would still seek us out would be larger than anything we'd done before -- and then we could use our website to reach them."

Prior to signing with V2 there had already been an upswing of activity in the Giant Sand camp: Burns and Convertino's side project Calexico (nee Spoke); the Sand-Lisa Germano collaboration OP8, which yielded the critically-acclaimed Slush album; a Rainer Ptacek tribute-benefit album, The Inner Flame, which Gelb and Robert Plant initiated to help out their ailing friend Ptacek, who was recovering from a brain tumor; and the beginnings of a Gelb solo album recorded in his living room, primarily acoustic, with contributions from assorted friends such as Germano, Grandaddy, Winston Watson, and of course Burns and Convertino (this would eventually be released on V2 in '98 as Hisser). Then, right as a creative nexus seemed to be just over the horizon for Giant Sand, tragedy struck. Ptacek's cancer had returned with a vengeance, and was deemed untreatable. Gelb, who was in the midst of a European tour with Burns, Convertino and Germano, raced home to Tucson to help care for his dying friend.

 

At a memorial for Ptacek, held a week or so after his death in November of  '97, Gelb and Burns got up in front of an overflow crowd of mourners crammed into Tucson's San Pedro Chapel and performed a gentle, moving song in the late guitarist's honor. Afterwards, walking up to Gelb to offer my condolences, I noticed his hands were shaking as they gripped mine. His voice, too, seemed to have an uncharacteristic shakiness to it.

Back in the present and listening to Gelb recount his friend's ordeal, I again detect that same quiver in his voice, at least momentarily, as he nods at a portrait of Ptacek hanging on the wall next to his piano. "That motherfucker!" he exclaims, then allows a wry smile. "That's the taint of it all. He provided a balance. We could toy with each other's sensibilities and get tickled by it. Then, when he was gone, I was spinning out of balance. It was just too weird. Things didn't have worth any more. I couldn't have imagined it beforehand. Once it happened... [trailing off] ... I just didn't have that 'juice' and confidence: 'I don't have it in me now -- why is that?'"

Sessions for the next V2 album began in January of '98 when John Parish (of P.J. Harvey fame) arrived in Tucson. By all accounts the relationship clicked -- Parish would even wind up choosing the desert on the outskirts of Tucson as the site for his wedding -- but from a recording standpoint, somehow the old Giant Sand magic proved elusive, something Gelb freely admits. "I didn't have the conviction to say, 'I'm behind this 100 percent.' I was still fucked-up from Rainer's death, and the recording was in the same place where I'd recorded Rainer's last things just days before he died. So I was hearing stuff in the music, or maybe too aware of my own participation. And the camaraderie in the band was low because there were different agendas. I didn't know for sure what we came up with."

Indeed, while it was purely happenstance that Gelb's low ebb coincided with Calexico's rising star, one unfortunate result of the confluence was tension that would remain unresolved for some time to come. Burns and Convertino's increasing commitment to their side project, not to mention their sometimes hectic schedule recording with Victoria Williams, Richard Buckner, Bill Janovitz, Michael Hurley, etc., meant that Giant Sand duties had to be slotted into that schedule. Whereas previously Gelb would take his band out on tour, work up new material on the road, then return home and hit the studio, he now had to contend with an unintended by-product of the free-wheeling Giant Sand modus operandi.

And while Gelb now jokes that "it was the damndest thing -- the enemy came from within!", it's clear from talking to him that the paternal pride he genuinely took in seeing his friends growing as musicians and artists was tempered by the realization that he was now having to compete with 2/3 of his own band. "The thing about Giant Sand," says Gelb, "was that it was a haven or sanctuary away from competition. Didn't matter what any other band was doing. We could do anything we wanted and we became our own flavor. And I loved that! 'If you want these tones, this attitude, you can only get it here.' So it began to aggravate me. The upside of this competition: the quality of the material, the playmanship and the aesthetics got better. The downside of course: it fucked with the sanctuary of certain things I held dear, the removal of all things that had a non-competitive nature, the non-descriptiveness."


----------Interlude 1:  Burns & Convertino--------------

 

Giant Sand always seemed flexible enough for each player to enjoy ample space, both within the group and without. Why, then, do you think your recording and touring with other artists and doing Calexico messed with the
equation?

Convertino: In a way, I think it was a relief for Howe, knowing that we were doing music and making a living while he was still working through Rainer's death. But then, for so long it was like, 'What's up? Are we gonna go on tour?' It was causing him trouble with us being gone so much. That trouble being, 'not together'. We weren't playing as much as Giant Sand, and you lose that consistency of what it feels like to play.

Burns: The pressure might have been on him in another way too: "They don't need me." OP8 was on tour, then we got the call about Rainer, so he leaves the tour. We didn't know what we should do, so we carried on and finished the tour, and it was good. So maybe that OP8 thing started that whole self-doubt thought process, about how much he was needed. I've gone through this myself, carrying a whole ball of low self-esteem around. You always doubt what you do.

Yet at the same time, the V2 deal should have been a source of challenge: time to get on with life, look forward to this new album. Did the label ever fully understand what Giant Sand was about?
Burns: Hell no. Kate Hyman [Giant Sand's A&R person at V2] did to an extent; she had the experience of working with the band for Glum, which is a great record. But at the same time, maybe she had ideas as far as what she wanted out of the band but couldn't verbalize it for Howe. The ideas weren't being met.

Convertino: Doing this record, there was a lot of outside influence from V2 and from the producers. For example, we'd do a take and I'd think I'd like to try it again, but the producer would say, "No, it's great." And it seemed like the record company was having such a struggle with the band, this dialogue about needing a radio single and stuff that was going down.

Burns: Howe was trying to get them to like what he was doing and figure out how we could meet them somewhere in the middle. It began to feel more like the major label  ideas were being thought out in New York and paid for in New York. That seemed to be the furthest extension of what V2 or major label land is all about: "Whatever it takes." Well, then you're crossing state lines as far where the band is coming from and what the band is all about.

How did you feel when you heard V2 had dropped the band?
Convertino: I figured as much. The label, which had been going three years by then, hadn't had a big hit and it would have to downsize. So that was the timing. Our record had taken long enough to finish that we'd crossed that deadline when they had to downsize. And we were one of those bands.

Burns: I felt bad, mainly for Howe, because I knew he'd sunk his heart into it. On the other hand, I was like -- "Great! Now let's do something from the heart. Let's come back to something really good." I didn't know if anything could be salvaged from the sessions or not; I figured we'd just go back in and re-record everything.

 

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"Too Indie-Sounding"

If things didn't go immediately from bad to worse for Giant Sand, the group's orbit was definitely in the decaying stages.  Gelb, Burns and Convertino wanted to do a West Coast tour then immediately hole up in Seattle to record new material; instead, V2 sent them to Memphis in August to record with legendary producer Jim Dickinson. While Gelb is quick to point out that he was tickled by the opportunity to study at the feet of an acknowledged master of his craft ("Just his history, his vibe -- he's part snake-oil salesman, but that's okay!"), the sessions were frustrating for the three musicians. Part of the problem was that Gelb had given the record company a list of six songs he wanted to concentrate on in Memphis. When Giant Sand arrived, those were the six songs Dickinson was intent on nailing; Gelb, by contrast, as he grief had begun to subside somewhat, was emerging from his funk and coming up with new material. As a consequence, both communication and focus suffered, and for a second time, Giant Sand left the studio with the unsettling feeling that something crucial was missing. The record company, which had been hoping for at least one song it could pitch to radio and didn't hear any, was getting nervous. "We didn't come up with the goods," is how Gelb succinctly summarizes.

Enter Kevin Salem. At the suggestion of V2's Kate Hyman, the noted New York
singer-songwriter and producer rang up Gelb one night. Recalls Gelb, "So Kevin is talking to me about the record, and out of the blue he said, 'I want to send you something. I've rerecorded three songs.' Now the thing that got me, aside from the fact that some guy I don't even know has rerecorded my songs, was that he had picked these three new songs I'd written that I really liked: 'Blue Marble Girl,' 'X-tra Wide' and 'Shiver.' I'd started 'Shiver' in Tucson but in my despair I couldn't get the track; we'd tried doing all three in Memphis but it had no magic.

 "So the DAT from Kevin showed up in the mail; he'd added some guys, some bass, guitar, extra drums. I took the DAT up to the studio, put down new vocals, and it was so great to do something brand new -- I could waltz in there like Elvis and just sing because the song was done. I guess I got a thrill out of it because, as a songwriter, I used to come up with material so we'd have an excuse to play something, but there would be times where I'd come up with a good song that I didn't think we had 'realized.'"

Tweaked by Salem's audacity and inspired by his enthusiasm, Gelb traveled northward to Woodstock over Christmas where he and Salem hunkered down in Robbie Robertson's old cabin studio and put the finishing touches of the album. For Gelb, this third and final round of sessions went quickly, "just the way it used to be in the old days, just one other person there pushing the button and capturing it. It was kind of like we'd been evolving this way and then I took a deep plunge for other reasons, and now I was back to where it would have been if we'd continued on. With Parish and Dickinson, I was inspired by both of them, but I never thought I brought to the table as much as I could have. But with Kevin, it was long enough after Rainer's death, and I was healed enough, more ready for something -- and Kevin was right there to catch it. The juice."

Call it tragic fate or simply -- as Convertino pointed out above - the financial vicissitudes wrought by the record industry, it is nonetheless darkly ironic that once Gelb had an album he could live with and be proud of, V2 decided to cut the tether. The label had already issued Gelb's Hisser CD and had invested time and money into a two-album Giant Sand deal -- to the point of pressing up advance promos of Chore Of Enchantment. Yet literally, on the day before Gelb was supposed to fly to New York and start hatching out release plans with V2, he received a phone call from his A&R person: the band had decided to drop the band from its roster. "They had brought over a British guy to ride shotgun over the proceedings in New York," recalls Gelb with a grimace. "That was our demise, ultimately. The record was 'too indie-sounding.'"

A Happy Ending

Well, as any good family story should have a happy ending, I'm glad to report that this one does. (Funny: just as Gelb is getting to the post-V2 portion of our interview, a small rubber ball rolls from under the door and into the room. Looking down, I spot a tiny hand reaching under the door as well, accompanied by a loud burst of giggling. When I glance over at Gelb, he's giggling too, and sticking his fingers back under the door. Like father like son...)

Following a period of denial during which Gelb was inclined to simply walk away from the whole project ("It was enough to be happy about the final delivery of the thing. I did the work and got through it. I can move on.") and let V2 buy the band out of its two-album contract, he eventually decided he wanted to see the release of  Chore Of Enchantment through after all. Demand for the record was already exceeding his supply of advance promos, which V2 had given Gelb and he was selling via the Giant Sand website. And while obtaining the rights to the master tapes would mean accepting less money from V2 in the contract buyout -- this at a point in time when a child was on the way, some much-needed home repairs were looming and Gelb basically had no steady source of income other than a Tuesday night solo gig playing piano at a local pub -- he would be free and clear to shop Chore.

At one stage, Atlantic Records expressed interest in Chore; Yves Beauvais, who'd A&R'd the Ptacek The Inner Flame project, was very eager to work with Gelb again. But ultimately a deal was struck with Thrill Jockey, whose owner, Bettina Richards, had been friends with the members of Giant Sand for years. "They've got a good sensibility, a good aesthetic and the good energy to keep the label going," says Gelb of Thrill Jockey. "They've are a true team who know what's going on. With Atlantic, you had a lot more money, and Yves, I love him because he made life so wonderful for Rainer. But he pointed out how in reality, the people in the Atlantic marketing department, there's all this political nonsense. You know how it is at a major label: when they talk to the artist they have to 'rephrase things.' With Thrill Jockey, there's no agenda crunch, and there's no backpedaling."

Make no mistake, both the band and its new label came out ahead with the deal; Chore Of Enchantment is, in a word, enchanting. Seductive. Lush and meditative, sonically fulsome yet with just enough of the band's trademark wobble 'n' whine to indelibly stamp it "Giant Sand." From the slinky barrio noir of "(well) Dusted (for the millennium)" and the darkly ominous, Tom Waitsish "Wolfy" to the funky soul of "Temptation Of Egg" and the sweet '50s waltz of "No Reply," Chore is every bit as satisfying as Giant Sand's previous classic, 1994's Glum. Lyrically, too; while Gelb steadfastly sidesteps attempts on the part of the interviewer to pin him down about any overriding theme to the album, it's hard not to see it, at least partly, as a chronicle of the group's ordeal. After all, it begins with a guy who's been "Dumped by what he thought he knew/ Now he sits slumped and don't know what to do" (from "Dusted") and ends with the narrator reflecting, "When I woke it was a new morning/ I was only sick from the night before." (The record is dedicated to Rainer Jaromir Ptacek; touchingly, samples taken from a tape of Ptacek's favorite operas are woven into a couple of the songs, and a snippet of Ptacek playing slide guitar closes the album.)

Another stroke of irony, this time good irony, arrived in the Old Pueblo the very day Gelb got the call from V2. Bill Carter, the maverick filmmaker of Miss Sarajevo fame who served as U2's European war correspondent on the Zooropa tour, landed at Tucson International Airport intending to shoot a video with the band for "Shiver." Undaunted, Carter proposed turning the project into a Giant Sand documentary.

Gelb: "So I said, 'If you want to just capture this matter that's going on around here, figure out what to do with it later...' It was an omen, him getting on the plane the same hour we were dropped. And I needed his energy and take on life in general. He is all amped-up with energy; me, I've always been a low blood-pressure kind of guy."

Carter, who wound up moving to Tucson permanently, shot footage of Gelb, Burns and Convertino under numerous conditions, from candid at-home scenes to live clips; he also interviewed numerous Tucson locals -- detractors included -- as well as such notables in the Giant Sand sphere as Evan Dando, Victoria Williams, Emmylou Harris, Richard Buckner, Vic Chesnutt, plus producers who worked on Chore and previous records. As Gelb puts it, the film is to be "entertaining, but in a nonspecific say. I don't want people who see this to have to already know anything about the band." And as Carter was on hand to capture the band during an admittedly tense period in its evolution, the film promises to have its own dramatic arc for those who are familiar with the Giant Sand saga to date.


---------Interlude 2: Burns & Convertino---------------------

What holds this band together? Do the members have to invest themselves emotionally to work together?
Burns: That's a tricky thing because -- how much do a person's emotions factor in to creativity? Quite a bit, really. I have a lot of respect and admiration for Howe, and if there is any tension from time to time, it does help with the creativity and the energy.

Convertino: You know, Howe and I did a tour of the States and Europe as a two-piece in '89. It was a kind of bash-it-out energy, let's see how much noise we can make sort of thing. Now, with Joey, through all these different kinds of music we've been playing, especially the Latin influence, it's about being able to tone it down and play the space more. I think the melody is sometimes the anchor; when Howe goes off, I'll go off with him, but keeping the melody in my head so I'll know where we're going. And Joey will throw in little splashes of the melody so we'll know where we are! There's a lot of concentration, a lot of listening.

Burns: One thing we've learned [from working outside Giant Sand] is perspective. You see how different people work -- Victoria Williams, Richard Buckner, Bill Janovitz, Vic Chesnutt, Michael Hurley... Then we come back around Howe and it's great because he's giving us signs with his guitar almost like a conductor, and we've learned them because we've worked with him so long. You learn someone's language and someone's cues, and it just gives you a better perspective, not only on where Howe's coming from, it makes you appreciate what he does and how he does it.

Convertino: Giant Sand is so much what Howe is, you know? We just try to tap
into the spontaneity of it. I know that for people who have seen the band, the shows are really different from night to night. For me, that's the fun of playing in the band. You make the best out of whatever's coming out of Howe at the moment. Just try to jump in there.


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Moving Forward

What's next for the band? Following this year's South By Southwest appearance -- make that "appearances," as both Giant Sand and Calexico performed - the band embarked upon a West Coast and Canadian tour. Then in May, a new Calexico album entitled Hot Rail was released, accompanied by a Calexico tour. While Burns and Convertino were off promoting their record, Gelb used the break to do a series of solo shows in England and Europe.

In the meantime, Gelb has several projects in store, not the least of which is the release of  the second volume of the Giant Sand official bootleg series, entitled The Rock Opera Years, on his Ow Om label and available about the time you read this. The 13-song CD includes alternate versions of songs that appear on Chore (the Thrill Jockey vinyl edition of Chore also includes a few of these) and material recorded in Tucson -- including a cover of Neil Young's "Music Arcade" -- prior to the V2 deal. Then there's a forthcoming Gelb solo album initially intended as two separate sets, one of piano music and another of songs, but now housed under the inclusive title Confluence. A previously scrapped second OP8 project, this one recorded a couple of years ago with Juliana Hatfield instead of Lisa Germano, may eventually see the light of day. And judging by the number of tapes littering Gelb's office and spilling out of boxes stacked up in a backyard storage room, as well as the unreleased material he previewed for me during the interview, he's got enough backlog to keep any aspiring, detail-minded archivist busy for a long time.

For now, though, Gelb is clearly relieved to have lived through his ordeal -- this is a man who once characterized his work to me as being of the "that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger" nature -- and eager to reestablish his group's equilibrium.

"We're always looking to capture that lightning in a bottle," says Gelb. "When it works, it's invaluable. So that right there is the crux -- and it's why we suck  sometimes, too. We know it's out there and it can happen. When it does, we're not even that conscious it just occurred; that comes way later, so we're just aware that something feels pretty damn good at the time.

"I do have to contend with being a decade older than the boys, and also being 'hampered' by the things I love. These chores of enchantment. I've collected this house, and now that I have it all, it stops me from going out and doing as much as I used to do. I kind of miss my instinct, knowing this is good and trying to maintain it instead of going off with my instinct like I did so many times before."

Standing up and motioning at the walls, and, by implication, what lies in the other rooms, Gelb grins broadly and adds, "But you know what? When I think about all this, it's astonishingly great."

 

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My conversation with Gelb is starting to wind down when Sofie Gelb knocks softly on the office door and tells her husband that Patsy, Gelb's almost-teenage daughter from his first marriage called and needs a ride. Talk about extended family -- young Patsy's vocal dexterity was often heard on Giant Sand records in the late '80s and early '90s, while her mother, Paula Jean Brown, served an extended stint as the Sands' bassist and continues to this day as a frequent guest on the group's records.

This seems a fitting enough juncture to signal the end of the interview so I thank Gelb for his time, the ladies for the fish tacos, and Luka for the floor show. Leaving the house, I glance back over my shoulder. Sofie is handing Howe his son, who clutches daddy with that soft determination peculiar only to babies. And maybe it's just the angle of the soon-to-set sun's rays, but from my vantage point, it looks like everyone in the house -- father, mother, son, grandmother -- is aglow.



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